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Lyle's been licensed since age 13. He's now in extra class. He must have been fond of that WA7 call and just held on to it. He's a life member of ARL and MSAT. He's a member of QCWA. He's co-founder of Tapper, Tucson Amateur Packet Radio, which he co-founded in 1981. And Tapper is basically what brought us the packet radio technology we all use today. From 1984 to 1991, he was a member of the ARL Digital Committee, and he's now a member of the ARL Future Systems Committee. In addition to his packet work, he designed the digital communications experiment on Oscar 11. He designed the computer units for the four microsats, which were launched January 1990. And he's now working on the Phase 3D Oscar project. At Tapper, he did the TNC1 hardware development. He was heavily involved in the TNC2. In fact, he was heavily involved in all Tapper projects. And he was involved in building the controller for the Getaway Special Shuttle Experiment, 1985. In 1984, at the Dayton Hamvention, he was awarded the first ever Technical Excellence Award for TNC development. Weil works for Modular Mining Systems, which does computerized dispatching and management of mines, using packet technology, among other things. And he is now Vice President of Hardware Engineering. And also Modular Mining provided Tapper with many facilities and financial support. Weil, welcome to the show. Thanks very much, Sean. It's a real privilege to be here today. Well, we've got a lot of stuff to talk about today. So let's start with, why don't you tell us a little bit about packet radio, Tapper, where it came from, why it appeared, and go from there. Okay. Essentially, packet radio is a communications technique where we try and tie computers together using radio lines rather than telephone modems, as most computer people would tend to use. The real intent here, of course, is to tie the people together that are at the computers as opposed to the computers themselves. Packet radio was first brought to the amateur consciousness, I guess I could say, in the late 1970s, when the Canadian Department of Communications set aside some frequencies for packet radio use. This immediately raised the question in Canada, what's packet radio? And it caused some people to start digging into it and find out. In the United States, packet activity didn't begin until late 1980 when Hank Magnuski, KA6M, in the San Francisco Bay Area, decided that the communications techniques that we were using for packet were close enough to another computer code that's called ASCII, which had been legalized by the FCC in 1977 in the United States, that he went ahead and put some packet radio equipment on the air. In 1982, I'm sorry, in 1981, October of 1981, QST, which is the premier amateur publication in the United States, published an article written by two gentlemen, Paul Amaldo and Dave Borden, describing amateur packet radio technology at that time. At that time, the people that were sort of leading this revolution, if you will, in amateur radio, were based in Vancouver, and they sold a small kit board that all together would cost about $400 plus a radio to connect to the computer that one would assume that you had and go on the air. In November of 1981, a fellow from Tucson named Dan Connors made a presentation to the IEEE Computer Society, where he described packet radio techniques. A friend of mine was there and said, Lyle, you've got to meet Dan. So he arranged a meeting, and from that meeting, we decided to form a local group here in Tucson that we called Tucson Amateur Packet Radio, or TAPR, with the express purpose of getting a few guys on the air locally to play around with this. We analyzed the cost of getting on the air and thought that $400 was just an awful lot of money, and we decided that we could design something and produce it for about $125 that would do essentially the same thing. So we got involved in our first project then. In early 1982, the local club had grown to about 25 members, and we went ahead with this project. In June of 1982, we went to the ARLR Southwestern Division Convention in San Diego, and we gave a couple of talks about packet radio. The interest was just phenomenal, John. We ran extra sessions. We took extra rooms in the hotel. It just almost got out of hand. We incorporated TAPR at that time, and we signed on members. In California, we came back from that convention with about 150 members, and people were just really interested in this technology. So what do you attribute that interest? Why was everybody so excited? I think it was just the idea of being able to do something new and to marry computer technology into amateur radio. 1981 is when IBM announced their PC. In the late 70s, there were what we call CPM systems available. But these were, how could I say it, the personal computer was just starting to become affordable and just starting to enter into the, shall we say, the shacks of the technical people within amateur radio at this time. And in Southern California, of course, there are a lot of people that are technically oriented. So I think it was just the right thing at the right time, if you will. Well, let me ask you this. You could already use RTTY. That's Teletype. Hook your computer to that. What was it about packet that excited people? Because it's clear it generated a tremendous amount of excitement. Right. Well, the difference between packet radio and other digital techniques, such as radio teletype or even CW Morse code, is that the way the data is actually sent, with packet radio, you're actually encapsulating the data. You might think of it like if you mail a letter to a friend where you actually write the information down on a piece of paper, you seal it up, put it in an envelope, put an address on there and a return address, put it in the mailbox, and you have some degree of confidence, at least in this country, that it's going to get to the destination that it's intended for. Packet radio is very much the same way. We take the data that you're sending, it might be a sentence that says, hey, Joe, meet me at the pizza place at 8 o'clock tonight. We encapsulate that information and we frame it, the technical term that we use, and we compute a unique number that's related to the information that's in the message. We then put the call sign of the sending station and the call sign of the receiving station, and we send this out as one quick burst of information. This information is received by the distant station. It looks to see that it's in fact addressed to it, and if it's not, it can ignore the data. If it is addressed to the station, then it unwraps the envelope, if you will, compares this frame check sequence, this integrity check, and if that integrity check matches, it says, this data is good. It didn't get corrupted. There wasn't noise that damaged this signal. The data that I have now received is in fact exactly the same as the data that was sent. That station will then automatically send an acknowledgement back to the sending station that it received the letter, so it's kind of like certified mail, if you will. The advantage to this is just like if you go down to your post office and dump a letter in the mailbox along with hundreds of other letters, it doesn't matter that there's hundreds of other letters. Yours is going to go where it's supposed to go. With packet radio, by virtue of this addressing technique, we allow a number of stations to use the same frequency, essentially simultaneously. So we have great spectrum efficiency, what we would call spectrum efficiency, to the use of spectrum reuse. That means that the stations automatically sort of queue up and take turns sending their data back and forth. With RTTY, or rather more conventional mode of data communications, a station transmits the data typically at a very slow rate and sort of ties up that channel for the entire duration of the transmission. If a fellow or a ham operator is just typing at their keyboard to send a message to the other station, while that person is pausing between keys, their transmitter is still occupying the frequency. With packet, because we wait until the frequency is clear, then send all of the information in one block very quickly, and then get off the frequency rapidly, we make the frequency available for a number of stations to use, as I say, the appearance of this is simultaneous usage of the frequency. Very good. I should mention that this is Ham Radio and More, and your host today is John Moore, filling in for Lynn. We also have Nick Seuss, W7ZMD here, and our guest, WA7GXD. If you wish to talk to our guest, you can call us at 230-2755, 230-2755, or 1-800-293-KFMN. We will have a trivia question a little bit later here, so you'll definitely want to stand by for that. We've got a commercial coming up here, our network break, in a few minutes, so I may have to cut you short here a little bit, but I wanted to ask you, what do you think, what was your impression when you guys started this little club, and it caught fire all over the world? As far as I know, today, almost everybody using packet is using stuff based on what you folks did. What did you think of that? Well, it's both amazing and gratifying. We started out as a local club thinking that we would do this in a corner. We made a big mistake, though. Dan Connors, KD2S, who was our first president, was a great person at promoting things, and he'd come from the east. He knew a lot of people back east, and he got us a column of what was called the Amrad newsletter, which was kind of a premier little newsletter amongst technical hands of the day. So everything that we were doing was being done in public with the spotlight focused brightly on us. As a result, we started getting inquiries from many, many places because we weren't just talking about doing packet radio, and we weren't just doing packet radio, but we were working and trying to make this technology available and affordable, and we did this under the auspices of the nonprofit organization, understanding that all of the engineering and development that went into this, thousands of man hours of hardware and software engineering time were all donated, and these people did this without any remuneration to themselves. Now, the thing that TAPR did that I think was very unique and I think really helped stimulate this interest and prove that the mode was viable was what we called our beta test, and this was in 1983 when we produced a couple of hundred boards, and we put them out in groups to different cities all over the country, and the idea was if we can give people working technology so they don't have to be technical people, can the average hand use this technology and can they have fun with it? The results of that test were a resounding yes, and as a result of that we had more demands placed upon us than we could possibly cope with, and that led to our TNC kits and the development of the TNC too. Very good. Now, at some point commercial operations started picking up on your technology, who was the first one? That was part of the game plan. What we were trying to do was get commercial interests really interested in taking the risk, the gamble of putting this out and thus legitimizing the mode by putting a recognized name associated with it. Our first what we called OEM agreement purchaser for the TNC-1 was AEA out of Seattle, Washington, and they took our TNC-1 design and created what they called a PKT-1, and that agreement was made between us at the AWRL Southwestern Division Convention in Anaheim, California in 1983. Very good, and AEA is one of our sponsors on this show, and we're glad to have them. Okay, yeah, it's commercial time, so we'll go for it. Nobody covers Arizona business like the Arizona business gazette. Each week smart executives read about the issues that affect their business, current topical news about today's business climate, the news you need to keep the edge in business. 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That's 264-1234. I'm Tom Folks with Computing Success, hands-on computing topics and run-time reviews. Sundays at 2-1 Financial News Radio, 1510 AMK FNN. You're listening to Hand Radio and More on KFNN. If you'd like to join in the conversation, call 230-2755. That's 230-2755. Or outside the local viling area, call 1-800-293-KFNN. Now, with more about amateur radio, here's your host, Len Winkler. Good afternoon, and this is John Moore filling in for Len. Our guest today is WA7GXD, Lyle Johnson. One of the technical innovators in Hand Radio, one of the many parts of the Hand Radio hobby, is technical innovation. Some people do almost nothing else. They don't get on the air and talk. They just sit in their little cubicles and hack with their computers and generally have a good time. I don't know if Lyle gets on the radio and talks, but he certainly does a lot of hacking and designing and stuff. So we'll get back to him here. Lyle, how different is the way packet radio has evolved in the usage of it than what you guys thought about, or did you even think about the evolution of it when you got started? Well, John, when we got started, we were just thinking in terms of having some equipment for a local group of people, and we assumed that other people would take the ball and run with it. As events transpired and it turned out that we were going to be the ball carrier, we just sort of shifted gears and accepted that responsibility, I guess, as the best way to put it, and we just started running with the ball as fast as we could go. We hoped that packet radio might ultimately penetrate maybe 5% of the amateur radio community in terms of individuals or stations. I think the number is much, much larger than that today. We've certainly been gratified and overwhelmed, and I think, again, it just points out that the packet radio systems that have evolved have been because there was a need, there was a vacuum, and this happened to be the right thing to fill that space. I don't think it was that packet radio was so terribly unique or that we did such an overly wonderful job. I think it was that there was a need and it was the right technology to fill that need at the time. Where did the term packet come from? That's a good question. I'm not 100% certain, but I believe that the term oriented back with the University of Hawaii and their programs in the late 60s, 30s, 70s, where they tried to tie the various islands campuses together by packet radio techniques, and it maybe originated there a little while. I have to admit I'm not sure. That's the Aloha Network. That's correct. Okay. Well, nowadays, most packet users are not technical people. They're ordinary hands. They use it to chat with each other. They use it on bulletin boards, exchange messages worldwide. They use it for traffic handling. What do you think of that? It's moved out of the technical world. It's in the hands of people who really don't know how it works. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I think it's a very good thing. I'm very pleased and gratified by that as well. I understand that when we started as TAPR back in the early 80s, the Vancouver Digital Group was still a very viable group, and they were still doing technologically innovative things. And people were telling us we were focusing on the least common denominator and things like that. But I think that because we tried to focus on making equipment that was reliable and reproducible and affordable, rather than simply focusing on how can we tweak this to get the last entry degree of performance out of it, because of that emphasis, I believe that's one of the reasons that packet radio has become as widely adopted as it has. Some of our first people that got involved in purchasing our kits and using them to put networks together was the Red Cross in California that bought literally hundreds of units. In fact, they were used in the 1984 Olympics for some of the Olympic games. There were time limits when an event happened and a score had to be recorded at the official place, and TAPR packet equipment was actually used for some of that with the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984. One of the things that I personally had hoped would be that at some point in its development that packet would become ubiquitous enough that it would be involved in emergency traffic handling and the saving of lives. I believe that that's happened with the Mexico City earthquake and with many other natural disasters where packet radio equipped ham radio stations have been available to provide emergency communications when and where it was needed during forest fires in California and all sorts of other things. So it's been very gratifying to me. I think that in the amateur world, the number of people that are actually technically oriented are a very small percentage, and I think that the more that these technological developments that occur within amateur radio can be injected into the mainstream of amateur radio so that the amateur community as a whole can benefit from it, the better off the quality. Well, I certainly agree with you, and I think the ham radio community owes you and the TAPR volunteers a lot of gratitude for having brought that technology to us and having donated all that time and money to do it. Well, as you said earlier, there are some people that just blame their cubicles and have fun, and other people that get on the radio and chat and have fun. I guess I'm one of the people that spends more time in the cubicle than on the air, but one of the wonderful things about ham radio is that it's such a broad-based hobby, and it offers so many facets that people from all kinds of backgrounds can have this common interest and just have one more thread to sort of show the fabric of all the diverse and wonderful things that our country has and just one more thing to help bring it together. Well, I agree with that, and I think that is one of the wonderful things about the hobby. And on the emergency use, I know that packet's getting very popular for that. I also, from talking to a friend of mine who manufactures packet equipment back in Kansas, understand that this amateur packet technology is now being sold in vast numbers to non-amateur users, military, commercial, overseas people of all sorts. Yeah, that's very true. I know at the TAPR annual meeting that we had earlier in March this year, we had a fellow came from some agency in Washington, and he gave a little talk and told us how during Operation Desert Storm that actually militarized versions of TAPR TMC2s were used for what they call fin route communications and the front lines of the battlefield in order to help coordinate some of the activities that were going on there. And that must give you quite a feeling to hear stuff like that. Yeah, it's really interesting to me. As we said earlier, we OEM'd the designs that we had out to various companies, and we did this very, very cheaply because we wanted to expose the technology to the largest possible audience. And it was interesting that one of these companies licensed these devices, and they took these kits that we sold in 1985 for $185, and today you can go down to your local ham radio store and pick up for under $125. And your tax dollars at work allow your tax dollars to buy these things for an excess of $12,000 because they're militarized. That's sad, isn't it? Yeah, I know how that goes. Okay, let's talk, let's get into some other aspects here. Local networks, one of the main things in packet radio that we see today are urban area networks, I guess you'd call them. And we don't have a lot of frequencies for these because the repeaters got the frequencies first. And this results in some problems, and I wanted to ask you just your thoughts on these. First of all, could you explain to people what the hidden transmitter problem is? Sure. As I mentioned earlier, the way that a packet station works is you put information into the computer, which then goes into this packet radio controller, or TNC as we call it. And the TNC is supposed to be smart enough to listen on the frequency and ensure that no other transmissions are occurring before it jumps on the frequency, sends your information, and quickly gets back off. In order for this to work, the TNC has to have the ability to hear the other stations that are in the area that it might possibly interfere with. Now, you run into a problem if you have, say, I have a transmitter and I'm located in a valley. And there's the station I'm trying to talk to that's up a little bit on a hill, and there's a station down in the adjacent valley that's also on the same frequency wanting to talk to that station on the hill. Now, the station on the hill can hear both of us, but if he's trying to send a transmission out and the fellow in the distant valley is transmitting, he'll defer his transmission until he's done. On the other hand, if at the same time I want to transmit to that station on the hill, I can't hear the station in the other valley, so I'll transmit at the same time. In packet radio parlance, we call this a collision. And the result of a collision is that, or how I detect that a collision may have occurred is that my unit says, I sent this transmission to the station on the hill, but it didn't acknowledge the receipt of that transmission. Now, I don't really know why he didn't acknowledge it, so what I have to assume, because I don't know, is the worst. And the worst in this case is another station that I can't hear was transmitting. So the way that I try and get around this problem is I say, okay, I'm going to wait a little while here and I'll pick a random number. And after some random number of seconds, I will then attempt to resend that data again. And I'll do this some certain number of times, and if I still just can't get an acknowledgment back, then I'll notify the computer that I'm attached to that I'm just unable to communicate with the station at this time. Now, a hidden transmitter causes a degradation in what we call the throughput. That is the efficiency of the utilization of the channel. In many parts of the country, this is a real problem. What we did here in Tucson early on when we started to design our local network, we thought the best way to avoid the problem with hidden transmitters is to not have them. And that sounds very simplistic, but then the question comes up, well, how do you not have a hidden transmitter? Surely there's going to be people that, while you can't hear from your station when they're trying to transmit on one of these few packet frequencies that are available. What we did was we coordinated a frequency for a mount-and-top repeater, and we put that repeater up on Mount Bigelow, which is in the Catalina here right next to Mount Lemmon. And this way, any station that's transmitting transmits just as if they were using the repeater for voice purposes. As a result of that, because the repeater is on the mount-and-top and it can hear all the stations that are going to be transmitting through it, we wind up avoiding this hidden transmitter problem to a large extent. We did the same thing here in Phoenix. The Phoenix packet repeater is a full-duplex repeater, so that as soon as somebody starts transmitting, it's heard by all stations, and that helps cut it down. We have to take a break, so we'll be back in a minute. This is John Moore in J-70, guest host of Ham Radio and Moore. And we have Lyle Johnson as our guest, W-A7GXD, and we're talking about packet, and we're going to talk about other advanced technologies. We also have a caller we'll get to in a minute here. But first little business to take care of, we have a trivia question. Now, the first person to answer this question will win a beautiful Sun Drop t-shirt. Sun Drop is where the fun is in Arizona. It's Arizona's Goodwill Ambassador. Other states have raindrops, but Arizona has the Sun Drop. Call 275-7450 for more information. Sun Drop has lots of neat items you can purchase. Thank you, Sun Drop, for supporting Ham Radio and Moore. 275-7450. Okay, Lyle, you want to ask the trivia question here. Okay, John, the trivia question that I'd like to pose to the audience is, in what month were the first TAPR Beta TNC boards shipped? Okay, in what month were the first TAPR Beta TNC boards shipped? Our number is 230-2755, 230-2755, or 1-800-293-KFNN. Okay, at this point we'll go to John in Mesa. John, you there? Yes, here. Got a question. How does this signal go from one computer to another through ASCII code or Morse code, or through voice? Lyle, go for it. Okay, John, the way that packet radio does this is there's a device that attaches to your computer. It's called a TNC. To your computer, this TNC is the same as a modem. So your computer talks to the TNC usually using the ASCII code. The TNC then modifies that code to suit its purposes, as I mentioned earlier, to put the stations sending address, the receive stations, call sign. It performs these calculations to create this plain check sequence for data integrity checking, and then it transmits that out as a burst of data. But the actual communication between the computer and the TNC is typically asking it to a serial port, a standard RS-232 serial port. And let me add to that that the TNC puts it out as tones through the voice channel, the microphone channel of the radio. Now, when it goes out through the tone, is it decoded or encoded? The tones are used to encode the data that's being sent. Typically we have two tones that we use, one of them near 1200 hertz and one of them near 2200 hertz. If you have a radio on 2 meters, if you can tune to a packet frequency such as 145.010 megahertz, and listen, you'll hear a sound that's kind of a rap, is how it's used to describe. It's a very raucous, annoying kind of a noise, but the computers just love it. Our guest, while are you with us? Between two stations that are just wanting to exchange data or it might be used on a frequency where there's a BBS and a number of users, the TNC allows itself to be tailored for the specific kind of operation that it's being used for. Some of these parameters are things that have to do with setting the delay time between when the TNC presses the push to talk button on your microphone, in effect, and when it then sends data through that microphone connection, allowing time for the radio to actually key up and come on to frequency. There are also parameters that I believe are usually called D-weight in a TNC, and this has to do with the amount of time that the TNC must see that the channel is clear before it will begin to attempt to transmit. A problem that can occur is if you have a busy frequency and say there's what we call a BBS or a bulletin board station, and this is simply a station where a packet user can, shall we say, check in and leave messages for others or pull off messages or bulletins for himself or things that he might be interested in or perhaps even download files or computer programs for his computer. Oftentimes it's possible for a person that's not aware of these parameters to transfer a very long file, maybe several tens of thousands of bytes over a radio channel, perhaps what we call prime time, maybe during 8 p.m. on a Friday night or something. If this is on a channel that's being used by a lot of people, this is kind of a discourteous thing to do. Now, TNCs often come from the factory with a default set of parameters such that they tend to assume there aren't too many other users on the channel. If you have a crowded channel and most people set their parameters to back off and defer to other users so that people more equally have access to the channel, and a small number of stations have not yet done that, that small number of stations will wind up hogging the channel, because every time the channel becomes free, they will be the most likely ones to jump on the channel and send additional data. Different areas have different standards, and I'm not sure what the standards might be in the Phoenix area, but I would advise you to check with your local BBS operator or other local packeteers in your area and find out what the parameters are that are being used for various frequencies in your area, and then set your TNC to those frequencies. It will make the resource, the valuable spectrum resource, more equally available to all users. Yeah, that's definitely a problem we have here. I know that some BBSs, or at least one, has a very short D-weight and ends up basically owning the channel. Another couple of pet peeves that I've had is that, for one, is BBSs using a popular channel to load from other BBSs. It's certainly a nuisance, and that's partly addressed by the fact we don't have enough channels. But another thing is, the BBSs are just big lists of messages, and one person after another gets on and downloads the same messages. I guess there's some software available that's doing this, but it seems like it would be nice to have a standard so that your TNC would just watch them go by and grab them, and when you're ready to read them, they'd be there, so they wouldn't be retransmitted all. Any work on that? Broadcast, right? Is that what they call it? Yes. As a matter of fact, there's a lot of work that's going on there. In 1990, as I mentioned, these packet radio satellites were launched, and these are sort of the ultimate BBSs. You've got a station that's orbiting the Earth a couple of three, four hundred miles above the surface of the planet. That's a really tall mountain top, and it can see a lot of stations that can't see one another, so you have a hidden terminal problem, as well as a lot of people trying to access this same BBS in order to download the same messages over and over again. In order to address this problem, Harold Price, NK6K, and Jeff Ward, K8KA, developed what they call the PACSAT Broadcast Protocol Suite. Okay, Lyle, I'm going to have to break in here. We're about to lose our slot, so we'll be back here in about six minutes. This is Hand Radio and More. John Moyer, guest host today, talking with Lyle Johnson, W.A. 7 GXD. Mr. Packett, will you pull up this? Sure, John. Okay, we have Mike in Phoenix, and Mike has a question for you. Actually, I've got two of them. And how we have so many... Pardon me? Yeah, I lost Lyle. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Actually, the question is corrected for him. Well, I may be able to help you while we dial him back up. We're still trying to figure out how to work this phone system here. So go ahead. Seeing how the 220 MHz band doesn't seem to really be used, why hasn't Packett kind of drifted up in those frequency ranges? Well, there is Packett up there, and in fact, at 220, the frequencies that we lost, now we're going to try an experiment here. The frequencies that we lost were used extensively for linking. So I'll tell you what, since I can't seem to get the conference team to work at this point, let me go ahead and go to Lyle and we'll... You may or may not be here when I push the button, okay? Lyle, are you there? Yes, I was... Sorry about this. I didn't hear what the question was. The question was, why isn't there Packett activity on 220? Oh, that's a very good question, and I'm really not sure what the answer to that would be. In many parts of the country, there is a lot of Packett activity in the 220 to 220... or, yeah, 220 to 225 MHz. One of the advantages that Packett can bring, since we lost 40% of that band recently, is in the area of repeater control, where a number of repeaters could have a single control frequency and use Packett radio techniques to affect the repeater control. That would then make more of the frequencies on 220 available for Packett radio use, because I believe that a lot of the frequencies on 220 are used as control links for repeaters on 2 meters and 70 centimeters. Okay, very good. Let's see, looks like we've got another caller coming in here. We'll pick him up in a minute. One of the things... or some of the things I want to talk about this hour are new technologies. Beyond Packett, digital technologies, ACSSB, Spread Spectrum, Turnpene, Cellular, all these things. Okay, we've got Mike back, and we're going to try again. Wish me luck. We'll see if we can get this conference to work here. Stand by. Okay, Lyle, you still there? Yes, sir. Mike, you there? Yeah, I'm here. Hey, I think I figured it out. Go ahead, Mike. Okay. I bought one of these commercial available PMCs that's about the size of a gender changer. And one feature it doesn't have is it doesn't have a mailbox feature. And I'm wondering, is anybody working on these software upgrades to give us a mailbox feature, because I'd like to go portable with a little laptop and occasionally pick up messages that way. I'm aware of a couple of small PMCs that are manufactured these days, and the ones that I'm aware of do have the mailbox feature. I'm not sure which one that you have that wouldn't have that. I've got PCCOM. PCCOM, okay. I guess I'm not. Is that one of those systems where the actual packet software runs in the computer and the plug-in adapter is simply a modem as opposed to a PMC? Yeah, I see. Yeah, that would, the other way that I would think one could deal with that would be to talk to the people that wrote the software for that type of system and see if they plan on implementing that. So the problem being that the nature of what we would call a software TNC is that everything has to be highly integrated into that software package itself. It doesn't easily lend itself to having sort of add-on modules, if you will. So I think that you'd really have to talk to the people that develop that software. Okay, well, thanks a lot for all the information. Okay, thanks for your call. Okay, I think, Lyle, we've still got you. Yes, sir. How about that? I'll figure this technology out yet. Okay, this is Ham Radio and Moore, John Moore, your guest host on KFNN. And our number is 230-2755, 230-2755, or 1-800-293-KFNN. So if you'd like to ask Lyle Johnson, our guest, any questions or participate in the discussion, give us a call. Okay, Lyle, what do you see, first of all, do we need new technology in Ham Radio? Well, I'm kind of a technologist, so I'd have to answer that, yes. I feel the same way. Why do we need it? Well, one of the purposes of Ham Radio, the basis and purpose upon which we exist under law, is that the amateur radio service provides technical innovation and technical progress in the radio art. That's only one of our bases for existence, but it's one that, in my particular case, I'm very keenly aware of. And in these days and in these times, it's difficult for amateur radio to actually create new technology. And the reason that I say that is because most of the technological innovation that's happening in electronics today occurs with companies with very large R&D budgets to create very complex integrated circuits that we call ASICs, for application-specific integrated circuits. And these things have their specific function built into them for mass market purposes. And that's not the kind of technology that a ham can really influence very much. In the old days, radios were made out of parts. You'd get tubes, you'd get transistors, you'd get general purpose integrated circuits wired together and make something new and different. But what Ham Radio can provide in this region, in this area of technological innovation, is a spectrum resource and a lot of ability to collect data. For example, in HF, or high frequency communications, data communications have traditionally been a difficult thing. There's a new protocol and a new system really that's being developed called Clover. This is being done by a ham that lives up in the Washington State area, and it's now being funded by HAL. And Clover, it turns out that in the experiments that have been done to date, it is probably the most spectrum efficient and most robust means of sending data through HF that's been developed to date. There's a lot of interest in this technology from the military, from emergency services out of Washington, D.C. And this is one area where amateur radio is actually at the forefront of a complete new technological development. But what I see happening in Ham Radio in terms of new technology is that the radio spectrum that we use, be it on 2 meters or on HF or on VHF or UHF or the microwave frequencies, we're under tremendous pressure these days for that spectrum. The commercial users figure that the spectrum is worth an astronomical number of dollars per hertz of spectrum. So just as the earlier caller was mentioning about the 220 band, where we just recently lost a portion of that due to commercial pressures and commercial interest, amateurs are going to need to demonstrate greater efficiency in the use of the spectrum that we have and more innovation in the use of that spectrum. If we all just sit and chat on FM repeaters, we're eventually going to wind up losing a lot of the spectrum that we have due to these pressures from these other commercial interests. I'm not saying that chatting on 2 meters is a bad thing to do. I'm simply saying that there's a lot of other things that we also must do. Yeah, very good. I wanted to throw in a comment here and then we're going to take about a 3 minute break. Sometimes I talk to Ham's and they say, well, I don't do any technology. I don't design circuits. I'm just an appliance operator. I say, well, what's your station? Well, I've got a PC and I've got it hooked up to a TMC and I've got a 2 meter radio and I've got HF and a beam and I talk Antor and blah, blah, blah. Pretty soon when you think about it, these people are doing technology. They're just doing it at a higher level in the same way that you guys didn't make integrated circuits to do TAPR. They're integrating boxes now instead of circuits, so they're still doing something. We'll be back in 3 minutes. This is Ham Radio and More. Len Winkler here for AEA in... We're back. Your guest host today... Getting overwhelmed by music here. Your guest host today is John Moore in J70. As you can tell, Len is in no danger of losing his job as host here. We also have Nick Seuss, W7ZMD, and our guest, Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD. Lyle, we just heard an ad for a DSP product there. Have you done any digital signal processing? Yes, John. Actually, TAPR and AMSAT jointly have had kind of an on-again, off-again DSP project in the works. This first started back in 1987, 1988. It got shelved when the volunteer resources for that project wound up being involved in its micro-sat development for 2 years. It picked up again recently, and in March of this year at the TAPR Annual Meeting, we demonstrated some initial applications being run on a DSP plug-in board for an IBM PC-compatible computer, which is the device that TAPR and AMSAT are currently developing. Very good. Now I'll explain for the guests... For the guests, sorry about that. For the listeners here who are not technically inclined, digital signal processing is kind of an interesting modern trick where audio signals typically are converted into numbers digitized, processed by a computer, and frequently converted back into audio signals again after they've been processed. And I should mention this is KFNN, Ham Radio and More. What's your guest host, John Moore? And we still have our trivia prize outstanding. Our trivia prize is still outstanding. What month were the first TAPR beta boards delivered? I'll give a clue since Lyle already said it once for those who are listening. The year was 83. That should make it easy. Our number is 230-2755, 230-2755, or 1-800-293-KFNN. While one thing I've noticed, and anybody can go to the VHF bands or UHF bands, tune around and notice the same thing, that is, they're empty. Now, the repeater channels are frequently all occupied. Try getting a 2-meter repeater channel in Phoenix, and you won't get coordination because they're all full. But if you look at a spectrum analyzer or turn on a radio and turn around, there's nobody there. What do you think of that? Well, this strikes me as part of a principle that I call it. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I apply this often on packet frequencies, say on HF, where a person calls a CQ, and the next thing you know you've got 10 or 20 different Q-sos going, and because of the hidden terminal problem, the channel falls apart rather rapidly. And this is the case where, because packet allows multiple stations to exist on a frequency, doesn't mean that it's a good idea for all stations to exist on a single frequency. In the case of repeaters, it seems to me that there's a tremendous number of repeaters that are drastically underutilized. And I'm not sure how to deal with this philosophically because one of the great blessings, I guess I could say, in amateur radio is the anarchy that exists. It's because of the anarchy and the inefficiencies and the lack of true central coordination that the amateur radio network on sort of an ad hoc basis is able to provide communications and emergencies, whereas if it was a very structured service, it would suffer from the same problems that the commercial networks suffer from when disasters occur. I guess I don't have any answers at this point, but it seems to me that we could certainly more efficiently utilize the spectrum that we have. I guess the parallel to the repeaters you're talking about might be the BBSs and packet radio. It's not really necessary for every packet station to have a BBS. And sometimes it seems you could get into one area that there might be 50 people on packet and there'll be 10 BBS stations. Would you repeat that three times? I think we're getting into some sore spots here. Yeah. Let's talk about this in the context of higher technology. There are more efficient ways to use frequencies. They don't necessarily provide exactly the same function that our current systems do, but people have talked about spread spectrum, for example. Now with spread spectrum, for those who are not familiar, you essentially transmit on a whole bunch of frequencies at once, but you transmit a lot less power on those frequencies. It's a very interesting mode. It is now legal in certain limited ways on ham radio. It has some advantages and disadvantages. Certainly if we use spread spectrum, we could make sure all our frequencies weren't used any time anybody was talking, although I don't think that's the point. There's trunking. We see trunking in commercial systems, and this is where you have multiple repeaters at the same site, and the radio equipment automatically selects one that's open, or one that's essentially a calling channel for your group that you want to talk to, and that achieves efficiencies. There's cellular technologies where you have repeaters that cover smaller areas and they're linked together, and you move around and switch from repeater to repeater. Do you see any of those commercial technologies in case of spread spectrum military also? Do you see those moving into ham radio and maybe supplanting our current VHF-FM systems? John, I think that we'll begin to see people that are involved in the technological forefront in amateur radio using and experimenting and promoting these technologies, much in the similar fashion to the things that we did with packet radio 10 and 12 years ago. I think what will, of course, Microsoft also probably just as cloudy as the next fellows, but I think that what will likely happen is that as these technologies come about and are demonstrated, if it appears that there is a useful means by which they can be implemented in a very cost-effective manner, because again, hams do this as a hobby and there's a certain limited number of funds that are available to switch over from owning a radio of one type to owning a radio of another type. But as these technologies prove themselves in the amateur world and as they become cost-effective, and I believe they will become cost-effective because they'll be widely applied in the commercial world for the same reasons that we will begin to need to apply them in the amateur world, that is to say spectrum efficiency, trying to get more users able to simultaneously operate within a given bandwidth. Certainly, cellular technology is very interesting from a lot of aspects. Some of the newer systems of it that are based on spread spectrum not only use but require power control in the transmitters. So part of our rules and regulations that tell us to use a minimum amount of power that's necessary to maintain communication happen as a default to the nature of the technology that's applied. That would be the first time anybody obeyed that in any significant numbers. When you talk about cellular, you know that they've been doing that on HF. In what sense? Well, Miles said yes, I think he knows what I'm getting at. Two packet stations that are talking to each other across the country on 20 meters and they run into a lot of QSP. The stations without human intervention determine that they're going to change bands, and they'll change bands from say 14.101 or whatever to 21.083, because propagation is better on 15 for their particular distance at a particular time of the day. This is occurring, and it's using systems that have been in use for at least several years. However, it entails a tremendous amount of interlocking capability between the transceiver and the computer and obviously the entire system. One of the things I've thought about a little bit, Lyle, is a lot of these newer technologies require essentially massive infrastructure. Cellular is an example. Trunking is another one. You don't have trunking until a bunch of repeaters are in the same place. I don't know quite how we would get that together. We do have a large infrastructure in packet networks and repeaters today, but it grew, as you said, in an anarchical manner. It just sort of happened, and some of these systems may require planning. Do you think that would preclude them? I think some of the systems that you're discussing, such as trunking, I guess I would be surprised if I saw those exist in general in amateur radio, because we're essentially, as you say, we're dealing with trying to improve our spectrum efficiency by using a lot of narrowband technology all in the same place. It requires radios that are able to be commanded or channeled from this repeater. I'm not sure how many hands are going to be happy to have something else channeling the radios for them. Some of the other technologies that don't require such a large shift in the type of equipment that's being used, I think will have a better chance of success. For example, the Clover HF system uses power control in order to maintain minimum communications. It's fascinating to watch it, the Q-SIL, with this, where your HF transceaser will be notched down from 100 watts output to maybe less than 1 watt, and yet the data is still flying from Arizona to Michigan, for example. That is pretty neat. I do indeed think that is a nifty thing. How about satellites? Currently, satellites, for the most part, are the realm of specialists. People with big, funny-looking antenna systems with SR mounts and expensive dual-band, side-band gear and things like that. Do you think satellites are going to be more accessible to the average hand? Yes, I do. I think that for two reasons and in two ways. One, the next generation of satellites, such as Phase 3D, are going to have downlinks, that is, signals coming from the satellite to the ground on the order of 10 dB stronger than the present satellites out. They're going to be more sensitive on the received side by something on the order of 10 dB, which means that a person will be able to use much simpler antennas, perhaps even omnidirectional antennas with radios of under 100 watts, to make effective use of these satellites. The second thing that's going to happen, for example, on the Phase 3D, is it's going to have a smart, multiple-notch filter, so that if it sees a ground station that's using more power than is necessary, it will zero in on that station, it will send a signal down to the station on the ground, and tell that station either to code or to synthesize first, you're running too much power, back off, and if the person doesn't do it after two or three warnings, it'll drop a notch filter on that person who did this from the past man of the satellite until he cooperates with the system resource. Now, that's what you'd call a smart spectrum. This is KFNN, Ham Radio and More, your guest host today, John Moore, along with Nick Seuss, and our guest is Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD. If you'd like to join our conversation, I ask questions, and now is your chance to ask questions of one of the technological wizards of Ham Radio. You can call us at 230-2755, 230-2755, or 1-800-293-KFNN. So, Lyle, you've been doing some work with satellites, do you expect to continue in that? Yes, I do, John. It's something that has been my dream since I was a kid when I first heard of Sputnik. I was only seven years old, but I was aware that there was something really neat going on, and from the first OSCAR satellite in 1961 until the present, it was an area that I wanted to get involved in, and through the fortuitous circumstance of my being involved in packet radio, at a time when OSCAR-10 was nearly ready to be launched, which was in mid-83, I was able to get involved in the amateur satellite program from the standpoint of being a developer. And just one thing I'd like to touch on regarding satellites and the previous thing we were talking about in terms of greater station utilization, there are a number of stations now that are using the orbiting satellite resources we have for automated packet message forwarding. So it could well be that if you send a message from your packet station in Arizona to a station in Alaska or a station in Europe, that that message traffic may have actually been handled by an amateur satellite en route. And what I'm getting at here is just as packet radio enables you to communicate with people when they're not yet there through the means of sending mail to their station. So, in the amateur satellite world, we're beginning to leverage the ability to use the satellites by people that don't have satellite equipment. And that is through what we call these gateway stations. Packet is an example. There have been some examples where people have linked on a temporary testing kind of basis an FM repeater in a metropolitan area to a satellite station. So a person could actually just use their standard 2 meter FM handheld radio and talk to the satellite to a person in the other state or another country. Ah, now that is really slick. I think that's a lot of fun. I know I got a big thrill from talking to the space shuttle. That's my extent and the Mir. What do you think of having the packet bulletin board that seems to have been up there forever now on the Soviet space station? And I wonder how many people know about that. Yeah, it's interesting. There is in fact a small packet bulletin board station at Board Mir. For the last few years, most of the Mir cosmonauts have been hams or have been people that have managed to get a ham license before they were sent up to begin their journey in space. And the system that's up there is really a simple packet message board on, I believe it's a PACCOM TNC. And you can access that with 2 meter FM whenever Mir happens to be within range of your station and somebody else that's stronger than you isn't trying to talk to them. I don't remember the exact frequency myself. You might remember that. 14555. 14555. And I believe that's a simplex frequency. Yes, it is. And it's tough to get in, but you can do it. And sometimes they'll pop up on voice there. There was a lot of that during the coup in Moscow, as a matter of fact. Okay, we have Bob from Scottsdale. Let's see if we can do this right. Bob, you there? Yes, I am. Go ahead with your question. I was wondering what license requirements you needed to work with the packet radio. And also you mentioned a meeting that takes place and I didn't get the location of it. Okay, the license you need for packet, for the VHF packet, you need a codeless technician license will do it, which is the easiest license to get. 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John Moyer, guest host today, talking with Lyle Johnson, W.A. 7 GXD. 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